The Real Kevin Bacon

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110 points | by xnx 3 days ago

18 comments

  • MattCruikshank 1 hour ago
    Sure, but what's the Basis Set movie? If you only had one actor in a movie, and you wanted to have the most connectedness in it, you'd choose Sam Jackson right now. (The one from Pulp Fiction, not the one from Ted.)

    But what if you could have TWO actors in a movie? Would Sam Jackson (again, the one from Jurassic Park, not the lawyer) still be one of them? Or is it possible that in aggregate, there are two actors who would achieve a better connectedness than Sam Jackson (the one from The Long Kiss Goodnight, not the one who was in Veronica Mars) plus one of those actors?

    What if you could have THREE actors in a movie?

    Or what about, who is the perfect sidekick for Sam Jackson (stop asking, yes, of course I mean the one with the purple lightsaber, not the one from In Time)? Who, if you add them to a Sam Jackson (the director of S.H.I.E.L.D., not the Mean Girl) movie, gives them the most aggregate connectedness?

    Enquiring minds want to know!

    Also, who's the Kevin Bacon of Bollywood?

    • bhickey 53 minutes ago
      > Also, who's the Kevin Bacon of Bollywood?

      Almost certainly Shah Rukh Khan.

      • MattCruikshank 32 minutes ago
        It was probably Amitabh Bachchan at one point, right?
  • card_zero 2 hours ago
    Somehow it's a fun fact that you can reach any other actor in four moves, but a much less fun fact that you can probably-reach any other actor in 2.6 moves. "Connectedness", huh. Though it was interesting to see that Frank Welker used to be in fourth place. Never heard of him. Or I've only heard of him, he's a voice actor. He does cartoon animals, often without lines, lots of miaowing.
    • yakk0 8 minutes ago
      He's done so much more than that. While he is likely many animals you've heard, he's also Megatron and Soundwave from Transformers, Fred and Scooby-Doo, Apu from Aladdin (ok, this is another animal, but he got significant screentime), and Ralph the guard in Animaniacs.
    • MollyRealized 21 minutes ago
      He's Megatron, amount others.
    • fellowniusmonk 56 minutes ago
      Yeah, I think an argument can be made that frank welkers presence at the top indicates voice acting should be treated as an optional variant.
  • dec0dedab0de 1 hour ago
    I hope Kevin bacon takes this as a personal attack and manages to get small roles in every upcoming film that has actors he hasn’t worked with yet.
  • BugsJustFindMe 14 minutes ago
    > "The conventional wisdom is that Kevin Bacon is the all-encompassing center of Hollywood..."

    Well, yes, but his name also rhymes with "separation", and that's kind of important.

  • geooff_ 1 hour ago
    This is missing the fact that there's a temporal element to this. Over time, the corpus grows larger and larger meaning younger actors and actresses find connections easier through common ancestors.
    • virgil_disgr4ce 36 minutes ago
      I don't think you clicked far enough. There's an entire section about the temporal element, replete with time-axis charts.
    • albedoa 46 minutes ago
      Is it missing that fact? It would be a pretty glaring flaw in the co-star trajectory modeling.
      • bherms 32 minutes ago
        It is not, it's basically the last 1/3 of the thing
  • ameliaquining 40 minutes ago
    Prior art here is the much older Oracle of Bacon project (which I'm hoping the author didn't know about). It uses the full IMDb data set (not just the top 10,000 films) and gets different results, with Eric Roberts in first place and Samuel L. Jackson in fifth: https://oracleofbacon.org/center_list.php
  • kornork 2 hours ago
    This is cool! I liked the time machine the best, and was surprised to see names I didn't recognize at the top (although I did recognize a couple faces once I looked them up).
  • gbil 1 hour ago
    John Candy #2 in 1993! Makes his loss hit hard even after all these years.
  • harikb 2 hours ago
    I would not have guessed Willem Dafoe up there :o
    • gste 1 hour ago
      He's my favourite actor, so I know: he's in a very eclectic range of films in loads of genres with all kinds of actors.

      I think that your range as an actor helps you here. For example, Seth Rogan, while he's in loads of films, he is extremely typecast into stoner comedies. So he is more separated from actors in other genres.

    • fusslo 1 hour ago
      I was surprised too, then I started thinking about his filmography

      Marvel Movies, John Wick, Robert Eggers films, To Live and Die In LA, Streets of Fire, American Psycho, The Last Temptation of Christ, he was unforgettable in The Life Aquatic, and Wild at Heart!

      The directors he's worked with: Robert Eggers, Wes Anderson, David Lynch, Martin Scorsese, Oliver Stone, John Waters, William Friedkin, David Cronenberg, Sam Raimi... who am i forgetting?

      edit: Yorgos Lanthimos!

      What an incredible career; I think he spends a lot of time in Italy when he's not filming now

      • ginko 1 hour ago
        You forgot Lars von Trier
    • ginko 1 hour ago
      Why not? He's been hugely active over a wide range of genres. He's the exact kind of actor I'd expect to be high up.
  • codingdave 1 hour ago
    I'm not sure this presentation is complete if they don't even mention Eric Roberts: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000616/
  • jeffbee 26 minutes ago
    I have not heard of any of the Gen Z candidates. I guess I am old.
  • bena 1 hour ago
    Being in a Marvel movie greatly increases your connectedness.

    Samuel L. Jackson and Robert Downey Jr. are central to a lot of plotlines in the first 10 years of Marvel movies. With either them or characters connected to them appearing in other movies.

    Then you have other franchise connections. If you've been in a Kevin Smith film, you're at most three steps from Samuel L. Jackson by way of Kevin Smith -> Bruce Willis -> Samuel L Jackson. And even if you're not in a film in the "View Askewniverse" like "Zac and Miri Make a Porno", that movie has Justin Long, who was in a movie with Willis.

    Every actor in the Fast and Furious franchise is connected through Vin Diesel.

    Every actor in the OT and sequel trilogy of Star Wars is connected through Harrison Ford. The prequel trilogy connects through Natalie Portman.

    Just between those, it's not too hard to reach everyone.

  • excalibur 39 minutes ago
    Fascinating content, engaging visuals, painfully difficult navigation.

    B+

  • BeetleB 1 hour ago
    Ha! I correctly guessed Samuel Jackson. Over a decade ago I read he was the number 1 actor for gross receipts of all the movies any actor had made (don't know if it's still true). I somehow felt that stat would be connected to this one.

    Would never have guessed Nicole Kidman for women, though.

    • settsu 1 hour ago
      I'd never heard that stat about Samuel L. Jackson and find it interesting because I don't think of him as a particularly versatile or prolific actor, though good in his roles and typically well cast. The stat is believable (apart from verifying it) given the massive franchises and singular hits he's landed.
      • BeetleB 40 minutes ago
        Think of some of the movies he's been in (even if only for a small role).

        Many Tarantino movies (including Kill Bill 2).

        The Star Wars reboot trilogy.

        The Marvel movies (Avengers, etc)

        Goodfellas.

  • ginko 1 hour ago
    I guess this is mainly about alive actors? Because for instance I'd expect Christopher Lee to be up there but he's not even in the list.
  • olwmc 52 minutes ago
    Listen I get it right the vibecoding is fun but please for gods sake ask claude "Can u make it faster pls" before shipping my GOD dude.
  • readthenotes1 2 hours ago
    Only has 2 text blobs and a few actors? Not really worth a "tap to continue" a. If the continue doesn't have any value
    • dec0dedab0de 1 hour ago
      I liked the presentation, and thought it was worth it.
    • goodcanadian 1 hour ago
      You have to keep tapping . . . I agree that it was not obvious.
    • xnx 2 hours ago
      I saw 19 screens of content.
  • quickthrowman 2 hours ago
    This does not work on iOS Safari, I get stuck in a loop. I haven’t installed the latest iOS update FWIW